[sumo] This whole thing confuses me

Harold Shaver hal6671 at gmail.com
Thu Feb 24 16:06:53 EST 2011

I'm not sure what the "official" definition would be but my gut feeling is
that if, in the situation you outlined, it was a personal gift of a match to
the other guy that it would not be yaocho.  I think that there has to have
been an agreement amongst the 2 rikishi for it to be considered yaocho.  If
for instance rikishi A & B, both friends off the dohyo were meeting on day
15 with rikishi A going into the match 8-7 and rikishi B at 7-7 and if A
just kind of laid back a bit and let B win to get that all important KK then
while it would not be "good" sumo it wouldn't be Yaocho.  However if B had
asked A to do that, even if no money or goods changed hands it would be.

Just my 2¥ worth.
Hal "Chisaiyama" Shaver

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To these questions I would add my own.  Is it yaocho to throw a bout  for 
non-monetary reasons?   Example:  not doing one's best  because one wishes
have the opponent win, but there is no money changing  hands.
In a message dated 2/24/2011 1:09:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
subs at metastablestates.com writes:

I'm  rather behind on all this. But I'm confused. Is this whole yaocho 
like in "Casablanca", where Capt. Renaut was "shocked... shocked to find  
gambling...."? Or are the sumo elders so inept that it really is a  
to them?

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