[sumo] What's Next?
cfinberg at gmail.com
Tue Mar 31 06:54:05 EDT 2009
To which I would like to add the question:
10. Who are the most promising up-and-comers in the lower ranks? That is,
rikishi in juryo and below, whom we predict can make it to sanyaku?
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Jezz <jejima at gmail.com> wrote:
> Okay, my take....
> On 31/03/2009, Jack Gartin <jacklg99 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 1. Will Asa come back - strong?? Or will we see him slowly give up his
> > dominance of the sport? And perhaps retire??? I'm betting the latter by
> > end of this year or first quarter of next. He's the kind of guy when
> > no longer king of the sandbox, picks up his toys and goes home. And when
> > does retire I'm betting it's not gonna be pretty.
> I think Asa will come back strong. Before this year started, I was
> predicting that he would retire early on, but after the January basho,
> I have completely changed my mind. Apart from Hakuho, there is
> currently no barrier to him winning yusho-after-yusho. I don't think
> he'll give in so easily to his fellow Mongolian. I think (hope?) they
> should have a good, healthy rivalry for another two years, at least
> > 2. Will Kisenosato redeem himself and move back up to sekiwake? Or is
> > due for a slide, at least for a while?
> I think he'll be back sooner, rather than later. Whether he can go
> higher than Sekiwake is another question. I don't think he has it
> what it takes - yet.
> > 3. Will Goeido - along with Kise - the two hopes for the future -
> > into sanyaku this next tournament or will they hold Goeido back and see
> > he stays strong then move him in July.
> Kisenosato will be demoted out of sanyaku. Goeido will probably be a
> Sekiwake in May. (Although Kakuryu could get that slot, I suppose.)
> > 4. WHAT WILL KAIOU DO? Even the vernacular press is starting to ask if
> > isn't time to go. Not just the foreigner fans. I think/agree he wants
> > hang in and retire in/after Fukuoka in November. But the pressure may
> > to be too much. Certainly the body is visibly failing.
> I think Kaio will keep on being Kaio. If he turns up for September,
> then he will have equalled the record for the most Makunouchi bashos.
> I don't think he'll be retiring this year - but I could be wrong.
> > 5. Same applies to Chiyo. Can he come back? There's got to be some
> > searching going on at the heya these days about his future. Remember his
> > Shisyo (master) is Chiyonofuji (Kokonoe) who brooks no silliness or
> > slacking. Hmmmmmm? BUT, he's the highest ranking Kokonoe beya rikishi
> > Kokonoe may want to keep him going for a while yet.
> Chiyotaikai will come back, and will probably get the 8 wins needed to
> save his ozeki rank. Even if he doesn't, I don't think he has said
> anything about retiring if he is demoted from Ozeki (unlike Kaio), so
> I would expect him to fight from Sekiwake in such an instance, hoping
> to get the 10 wins for a repromotion the 'quick' way. I was very
> disappointed with his performance this basho, and felt he should have
> gone kyujo mid-basho, when it was clear that he was going to end up
> with very un-ozeki-like numbers. To have the record for the worst
> ever completed ozeki basho, to go along with the kadoban record, is a
> little embarrassing, to say the least.
> > 6. Is this the beginning of the Hakuho era - much asTaiho, Chiyonofuji
> > Takanohana started??? Has he got it all together and now just gets
> > and better? Gonna be a lot of fun this year and LOTS of changes coming,
> > think.
> Hakuho is the third youngest ever to get 10 yusho (the youngest being
> Taiho, then Takanohana, with Asashoryu now sitting in 4th place),
> which is truly impressive. However, with Asashoryu still being on the
> scene, I think we are currently in the era of two great Yokozuna. I
> would fully expect Hakuho to have at least 20 yushos by the time he
> retires, though.
> > 7. Then there's Baruto. He looks increasingly like a strong candidate
> > Ozeki maybe late this year. His sumo is getting better and he's already
> > strong as an ox. He just has to figure out how to deal with guys who are
> > lot shorter than he is. Get lower at the tachiai and plow forward seems
> > be the answer. We'll see.
> I don't think Baruto is ready yet. He does have the potential though.
> One thing someone pointed out on the sumo forum in regards to his
> bout with Asashoryu.... He has got good defensive sumo - but he needs
> to know when to switch to 'offensive' sumo. He has never beaten
> either of the Yokozunas. Until he finds a way to do that, I don't
> think he is ready for a move to the next level. I see him being a
> strong sanyaku rikishi for a while, before he starts to make a bid for
> ozeki. He has never had a double digit record whilst ranked in the
> sanyaku - or in the upper joi-jin for that matter. Until he starts
> getting the 'numbers' it is a little early to start seeing him as an
> > 8. And LAST - really - of all: Who is gonna be the next Yokozuna
> > candidate? That's always fun to watch for. There'll be some false
> > of course, but somebody will finally surface above the crowd and start a
> > for it. Maybe not this year but the beginnings should start to turn up.
> > No, I don't think it'll be Harumafuji. Slick and fast, technically very
> > good, but he loses his concentration at the darndest times and, then,
> > the match(es). It's gotta be somebody with focus and technical skill.
> > watching Goeido. He looks like he's got the 'right stuff' but we'll see.
> > Kisenosato, although strong and improving technically, doesn't seem to
> > the tight focus required. He'll be an ozeki soon, but probably not
> > quality.
> I would say that Harumafuji is still the best bet amongst those at the
> top - but as an outside chance. However, in an era of two strong
> yokozunas, it is very hard for a third rikishi to have two-in-a-row
> stellar bashos to force a place for a third yokozuna. We may have to
> wait 2 or 3 years - or for Asashoryu (or Hakuho) to retire first.
> > There now, Let's have a civilized discussion about these and any other
> > topics to fill in the slack, non-basho time.
> 9. I would like to add another topic. I am an Asashoryu fan, but I
> felt he lacked 'something' in the second week. During his post-basho
> interview, Hakuho said that he was able to (partly?) attribute his
> yusho to his focused keiko before the basho. Now, this is not meant
> to be a 'trollish' comment, but one for the other Asashoryu fans to
> give their opinion on. Before the next basho, would it be better for
> Asashoryu to shut out all (or as many as he can, as he does have
> interests that need to be attended to) as many distractions as
> possible in the couple of weeks leading up to the basho, and get in as
> much keiko as possible, and stay focussed on task in front? He now
> has a real foe in the guise of Hakuho, and can no longer claim the
> yusho simply by turning up.
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