[sumo] [Spoiler] Asashoryu
martina.lunau at googlemail.com
Tue Sep 23 08:12:36 EDT 2008
Well, behind the shimpan is relative, a box in the middle or close to the
door is also behind the shimpan ;-)))))
2008/9/23 Doreen Simmons <jz8d-smmn at asahi-net.or.jp>
> Well, good for you, Mark.
> Just one question: how did you get a seat right behind the shimpan bucho? I
> know quite a lot of the people who own those seats and I don't recall any of
> them saying they'd let you have their seat.
> And while we're on the subject, how many real papers or magazines have you
> actually sold a sumo story to? Name them. Last time I heard from you, you
> were still doing the rounds of the embassies, and every time you sold a
> story about living in Japan, it went onto your record as an 'international
> Doreen, just wondering
> On 2008/09/23, at 10:15, MBtatton at aol.com wrote:
> I was behind the shimpan and he raised his hand once in a (fight is)
>> 'obviously over' / everyone will notice it (the step out) kind of way.
>> Have seen and called far too many fights and kimarite that even the NHKers
>> get wrong with the aid of replays !! Think Saturday (I was at home) we had
>> clear clear clear tottari called okuridashi / okuritaoshi was it on NHK -
>> because one chap's elbow touched another's 'butt' as he was going out?
>> Doreen -
>> you were on the show that day if you recall - Ama's bout IIRC).
>> To then have had any doubt when there in person - wearing my new glasses
>> all! Not an ounce of doubt.
>> I saw the step back, reason for the raised hand from a man actually closer
>> than I and instantly thought he (Asa) had stepped out. The shimpan was
>> instant -
>> no delay.
>> He did realise the gyoji (who was positioned rather badly to see Asa's
>> foot) had not seen so waved far more energetically.
>> No-one near the shimpan had any doubts, and I wondered what took the
>> so long to start immitating a Prince song.
>> The error, IMHO was the gyoji's (positioning) and for that I felt sorry
>> Asa as he didn't realise what was going on (evidenced by the fact that he
>> himself looked at the wrong shimpan to learn why it had gone against him)
>> but that
>> indentation was not that small and the shinpan was probably 3 feet away -
>> as much as 5 as has been mentioned.
>> Has anyone even asked about coincidences - if the indentation in the sand
>> were not there before the bout - and with Hideyo on the job it wouldn't
>> have been
>> - where did it come from? Helluva coincidence if one rikishi (not
>> who) stepped out (or didn't) right at that very point!, and the mark left
>> not connected in anyway!
>> I think this is a good example of learning how to watch sumo though. Look
>> the faces post bout in the media pics - the shimpan and older hands look
>> the feet - the day trippers and excited one timers look at the hand around
>> throat, the belly-to-belly action, and often miss the real reason it all
>> I often use peripheral vision to be honest - foot/feet and nearest shimpan
>> hands if across the other side of the dohyo.
> Doreen Simmons
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