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Thu Sep 4 19:10:10 EDT 2008
> I've been a member of the List for years.
And I have received some really moronic email responses to some things I
have posted. They would be insulting if I cared what those particular
people thought.. and many of these emails were sent to my private address,
so you reasonable people out there would not see them. So they were
moronic + cowardly. But these repsonses did make me feel that I was
wasting my time bothering to post. One can lose sight of the fact that
there are thoughtful and receptive readers out there who ARE worth the
When in Japan I spend my time behind the scenes, where I used to be every
day when I lived there... talking with the rikishi, taking them out when
possible... in order to accomplish my drawings and research for my books
and lectures. I often want to share these real moments with people who
would enjoy the info.
Perhaps I will try it again when I return. I do think the list is important.
the SUMO artist
Years and years and years.
> And years! We have this same discussion about moderation every few
> months. And so far, we've always concluded that moderation is
> paternalistic, offensive, and inconsistent with the rough-and-tumble
> of the internet. And, of course, no one wants to *do* the moderation.
> I, for one, wouldn't participate on a List with a moderator of the
> sort Scott advocates.
> The List is moribund because some of our heaviest contributors ditched
> us after they weren't treated very well by fellow List-members. These
> things happen. It's a post-mailing list kind of world now, so it's
> probably unlikely the List will ever be truly vital again.
> Unfortunately, the Sumo Forum isn't really a substitute for many of
> the thingsamity, among themthat the List once provided.
> Best wishes,
> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Scott M. Kahn <smk1 at columbia.edu> wrote:
>> A moderator could free the list of posts that many of those closest to
>> sumo world have objected to (personal attacks), those which have caused
>> to stay away from the mailing list, while still allowing for on topic
>> It is always up to the individual subscriber to decide what to read and
>> to dispose of, or whose posts to automatically delete (yours truly must
>> into the latter category with some people...). I suggest that we try to
>> accomodate the list so that we can reattract those individuals who used
>> selflessly provide us with dohyo-side seats, and moderation is one such
>> Quoting Juergen Hader <juergen_hader at yahoo.de>:
>>> Emma Kolstad Antunes wrote / schrieb:
>>>> The list seems so quiet lately, I think because many of our previous
>>>> contributors got fed up and left. I find this to be sad. We've had a
>>>> community for many years, and I'd like to see it be healthy and
>>>> different perspectives.
>>> [Watch out. Personal view of things starting here, not for the faint
>>> All that Emma wrote would be nice, but since a few months the list is
>>> going downhill faster than a toilet seat from the de-orbiting of the
>>> space station.
>>> Just look how many mails in the last weeks were sumo-related news and
>>> many were inspired by beatniks, hippies or a multiple mailing mistake.
>>> this may be warm, cozy, sometimes funny and more often than not
>>> but this should be a *Sumo* mailing list, and it mostly isn't.
>>> The only reason I still keep reading it is nostalgia, not getting
>>> informations about the sport that I like (ok, except Doreen's
>>> And sadly I have no idea how to change the situation, but why should
>>> introducing a moderator bring many of those MIA back here?
>>>  Yes, I love 'Dead Like Me'. So what?
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Lynn Matsuoka , described in the Japan press the "Degas of Japanese Sumo
and Kabuki", has also won awards for her hula reportage paintings in
Hawaii. Her Sumo artwork is in corporate and private collections around
the world, in of the Morikami Museum of Art and has recently been
requested by the Sumo Museum in Tokyo and Sapporo.
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