[sumo] Please update- Time for a SML moderator???
greengourd at gmail.com
Thu Sep 4 14:07:59 EDT 2008
I've been a member of the List for years. Years and years and years.
And years! We have this same discussion about moderation every few
months. And so far, we've always concluded that moderation is
paternalistic, offensive, and inconsistent with the rough-and-tumble
of the internet. And, of course, no one wants to *do* the moderation.
I, for one, wouldn't participate on a List with a moderator of the
sort Scott advocates.
The List is moribund because some of our heaviest contributors ditched
us after they weren't treated very well by fellow List-members. These
things happen. It's a post-mailing list kind of world now, so it's
probably unlikely the List will ever be truly vital again.
Unfortunately, the Sumo Forum isn't really a substitute for many of
the things—amity, among them—that the List once provided.
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Scott M. Kahn <smk1 at columbia.edu> wrote:
> A moderator could free the list of posts that many of those closest to the
> sumo world have objected to (personal attacks), those which have caused them
> to stay away from the mailing list, while still allowing for on topic
> It is always up to the individual subscriber to decide what to read and what
> to dispose of, or whose posts to automatically delete (yours truly must fall
> into the latter category with some people...). I suggest that we try to
> accomodate the list so that we can reattract those individuals who used to
> selflessly provide us with dohyo-side seats, and moderation is one such
> Quoting Juergen Hader <juergen_hader at yahoo.de>:
>> Emma Kolstad Antunes wrote / schrieb:
>>> The list seems so quiet lately, I think because many of our previous
>>> contributors got fed up and left. I find this to be sad. We've had a
>>> community for many years, and I'd like to see it be healthy and welcoming
>>> different perspectives.
>> [Watch out. Personal view of things starting here, not for the faint of
>> All that Emma wrote would be nice, but since a few months the list is
>> going downhill faster than a toilet seat from the de-orbiting of the Mir
>> space station.
>> Just look how many mails in the last weeks were sumo-related news and how
>> many were inspired by beatniks, hippies or a multiple mailing mistake. All
>> this may be warm, cozy, sometimes funny and more often than not friendly,
>> but this should be a *Sumo* mailing list, and it mostly isn't.
>> The only reason I still keep reading it is nostalgia, not getting
>> informations about the sport that I like (ok, except Doreen's postings).
>> And sadly I have no idea how to change the situation, but why should
>> introducing a moderator bring many of those MIA back here?
>>  Yes, I love 'Dead Like Me'. So what?
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