[sumo] [spoiler] Asashoryu vs Hakuho

[Joshua Maciel]

I was watching it live in Japan, and this is what I saw on the many replays:

Asashoryuu won, pushing Hakuho down. Hakuho was down, Asashoryuu saw it,
paused, and then gave a shove while he was down. The timing of the pause
looked like Asashoryuu saw that he was down, and pushed him after a pause
anyway. After the shove, Hakuho stood back up, and Asashoryuu's hand
(unintentionally, it seemed) slapped towards Hakuho's face while he was
turning away and Hakuho was standing.

At any rate, it looked like a malicious shove on Asashoryuu's shove, and
definitely didn't look Kosher. I'm sure we'll learn more as time moves
along, but from where I was sitting, that's what it looked like...

- Josh

On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Marionoumi <marionoumi at sat.bbiq.jp> wrote:

>
> Hm, I didn't see a slap into Hakuho's face but surely it was a shove after
> the action was over [one of those which one might argue happen because of
> all the adrenalin accumulated up but which are never the less frowned upon
> in the Japans].
>
> Hakuho didn't take it calmly either though and when getting up he made sure
> to shove his elbow and shoulder back into Asashoryu which led to the
> staring
> contest [Asa was offended but maybe also a bit scared so it seemed -
> surprised for sure that is]. For a moment I thought they might continue the
> brawl right on but then Asa walked back, telling himself he won after all
> and Hakuho is supposed to show him the proper respect [now his smile turned
> sheepish] which wasn't done to his satisfaction as he sat VERY slowly down
> on his heels to accept the kensho money which was just a meager 800,000Yen
> or so....
>
> Well, we surely hear about it very soon from our favorite Ms. Uchidate...
> ... and our Yokozunas better go out drinking later on.
>
>
>
>
> marionoumi
>
>
> p.s. I found the Bulgarian ambassador rather cute - he was speaking
> Japanese
> and had his difficulties with it. A little laughter came when it took him a
> very long time to say "nichi" [day of date] after 25 at the end of his
> speech. I also thought he looked a bit similar to Kotooshu, facewise that
> is.
>
>
>
> > >I think I saw Asashoryu give an extra 'victory shove' when Hakuho was
> > >already down, and a quick 'victory stance'.
> > >
> > >But then I think I saw Hakuho glare menacingly at 'Shoryu when he
> > >stood up after the bout.
> > >
> > >I even suspect I saw Asashoryu looking either scared - or possibly a
> > >bit sheepish due to his immediate after bout reaction - as Hakuho
> > >stood up.
> >
> > Asashoryu smiled afterwards. Someone else here mentioned that as
> > one of his reactions to defeat. In this case, he won the match, but then
> > cancelled it out with his late shove after Hakuho was already down, and
> > then even a slap to his face. He wrestled defeat from the jaws of
> victory,
> > so to speak. Maybe the smile was his way of acknowledging that. My
> > limited understanding of Japanese culture tells me that embarrasment
> > or discomfort is often expressed by smiles or laughter. Maybe Mongolian
> > culture is similar, or Asashoryu has assimilated that in some odd way.
> >
> > >Interesting bout to end the basho, but possibly for the wrong reasons.
> >
> > Yeah, but a great basho nonetheless. The Bulgarian ambassador was so
> > proud. Kotooshu is my new hero. I might even start eating yogurt :)
> >
> > Dale
> >
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