[sumo] [spoiler] Day 5 Controversial Musubi No Ichiban

[Barbara]

Here is a thread on the last match.  Asashoryuu was clearly pushed out, 
giving way, and falling, but Tochinonada's left foot slipped at that 
same moment causing him to touch first.  After a Mono-ii, the close call 
was reaffirmed.  --Barbara Murasakihana

 From Sumo Forum:

HenryK	
The slow-motion shows that Tochinonada clearly touched the ground first 
with his elbow. Great fight by the Maegeshira, but it should have been 
an uwatenage for the Yokozuna.
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Tony
I suppose they considered that Asashoryu was in position of shinitai, 
already out of the dohyo and couldn't turn the tide.

It's harsh for the yokozuna!
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sekihiryu
worthy of rematch, but in the end they gave it the aggressor as they 
frequently do. Such is life, nothing to see here move along, move along.
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kaiguma
QUOTE (sekihiryu @ Jul 17, 2008, 11:56) *
worthy of rematch, but in the end they gave it the aggressor as they 
frequently do. Such is life, nothing to see here move along, move along. 
ENDQUOTE

Subtle difference between your explanation and Tony's, but I don't think 
he was actually shini-tai. Tochiozan's "touchdown" victory yesterday was 
a much better example tongue.gif

So yeah, I think they went with the aggressor at the edge, but I really 
think a tori-naoshi was in order. Can anyone translate for us what 
Takanohana Oyakata said before "gunbai dori" ?
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Kobayashi
The same screwing happened to Baruto baruto.gif at shonichi. Clearly 
Miya's hand touched already the dohyo while Bart was still hanging above 
it. no.gif
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kaiguma
QUOTE (Kobayashi @ Jul 17, 2008, 13:44) *
The same screwing happened to Baruto baruto.gif at shonichi. Clearly 
Miya's hand touched already the dohyo while Bart was still hanging above 
it. ENDQUOTE

Bart's right hand was also coming down at the exact same instant, and 
his entire body was outside of the dohyo, not hovering over it... likely 
considered shini-tai.
That one also could be considered a tori-naoshi candidate, but I don't 
think it was a mistake to leave it.
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Takemi
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Zok45Euaw4
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ilovesumo
QUOTE (kaiguma @ Jul 17, 2008, 17:24) *
Can anyone translate for us what Takanohana Oyakata said before "gunbai 
dori" ? ENDQUOTE


"I will explain what we spoke about in the monoii. The Gyoji gave it to 
Tochinonada,he pushed (was aggressor)... to confirm it again...gunbai 
dori, Tochinonada won."

Something like that
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