[sumo] [Spoiler] Video... Contributions

Scott Kahn smk1 at columbia.edu
Mon Jul 14 12:58:37 EDT 2008

This is a good time for an unsolicited shout out for voluntary donations 
to the sumo mailing list! 

Our host does wonderful work to keep the SML alive, and I am sure he 
would welcome any contributions that would deflect his costs.  On a 
personal note, without the SML, Daughter and Wife of Sukubidubidu and I 
would be much poorer for not having had the opportunity to meet fellow 
sumo fans, in person and on line, and we are very appreciative.

The problem with info-sumo is that its call for donations came in lieu 
of the video reposts of the most important final matches.  This 
prevented viewers from seeing bouts they had geared up to see.  And, it 
came without any warning.  I don't think poeple are upset about dropping 
a few dollars to support the site, more that they feel emotionally 
squeezed and blindsided and angry at the way it was handled. 

Imagine how you would feel if you received a message from the SML that 
you could not read about any of the Sanyaku bouts unless you donated to 
the site.


Tetsuonoumi wrote:

> Marc-
>         I sympathize with what info-sumo felt it needed to do.  I have 
> no problem with them making a decision to alter how they run their 
> website.  But, for me, following sumo has always been free, and once 
> it starts costing me money I'll probably stop following, even though I 
> have been following sumo since 1997.  Getting video of the ongoing 
> basho is critical for following...so I hope I can find some way of 
> continuing my enjoyment of sumo.
>         FWIW - there are a lot of sites that start up free due to a 
> love for something, but after a while the love wears off and the costs 
> build up.  I never asked info-sumo to offer free video in the past, it 
> was just something they did.  And I was most appreciative!  But there 
> always is something funny to me about people who offer free stuff and 
> then later on change their mind...and act like people like me now owe 
> them something or are cheap for not complying.  Indeed, in your 
> message, you imply that I "assume that info-sumo can afford the 
> cost"...when did I do that?  This was all their idea, not mine.
>         BTW - when a "contribution" is obligatory it is no longer a 
> contribution or donation, it is a fee.
>         So again, anyone know of other places to find video of the 
> current basho?  Or sneaky ways to retrieve the video from the 
> info-sumo site? ;-)
>                 -Tetsuonoumi
> At 11:00 AM 7/14/2008, you wrote:
>> I contributed to info-sumo last year and this - before the "change".
>> Last year, he got 42 contributions, this year 17 so far!
>> If all of us who enjoy the site had contributed voluntarily, he would
>> not be, in desperation I think, trying to force the issue.
>> It costs money to provide that web site.  I know that Joe provides
>> this one "for free", and I'd be happy to contribute to him as well if
>> I knew how.  But you can't just assume that info-sumo can afford the
>> cost.
>> So please - just all give him a small contribution and get on with
>> enjoying the sumo.
>> Marc Auslander
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