[sumo] Dreadful Commercialism of Sumo

Charles Finberg cfinberg at gmail.com
Sun Jan 6 13:10:11 EST 2008


Nothing to apologize for!  I would not challenge a French aficionado's
identification of the great Kirishima!  Were you able to determine anything
from the mawashi color in the photo?

On 1/6/08, Thierry Perran <thierry.perran at club-internet.fr> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Sorry to tell this, but I would say that the guy on the other end with
> such a massive back is Kirishima with his famous green mawashi.
> Konishiki and Kirishima were promoted to Makuuchi exactely at the same
> time for the Nagoya basho 1987. The "small" Kirishima (M12 E) won his
> bout against the "big" Konishiki (M11 W) in this basho, and then a great
> rivalry was born. The journalists, especially the photographs, just
> loved it, and thus many pictures and articles were made when those two
> faced  each other.
>
> Believe me, there is a lot more pictures of Konishiki facing Kirishima
> than Konishiki facing Mainoumi. Kirishima was 19-19 against Konishiki,
> but Kirishima won their only bout in Juryo, so the "small" ozeki
> Kirishima had the edge over the "big" Konishiki. In other words, David
> kicked Goliath's butt on more time !
>
> During hon-basho, Konishiki faced only three times Mainoumi, and the
> first time was on the shonichi of the Hatsu basho 1995, so after the
> release of the Aerosmith album....
>
> Before saying you're watching Mainoumi in this kind of picture, you
> should always look closely at the back and the thighs of the opposite
> rikishi. Kirishima was way more muscular than the migty mouse Mainoumi.
>
> Greetings from Paris,
> Thierry
>
>
> Sumocypher at aol.com a écrit :
> > It's the same. It has been appearing in many magazines, including Time
> and
> > Newsweek and well as Information Security. The difference between the ad
> and
> > the  cover of the Aerosmith album as that the ad is more centered to
> show
> > Konishiki  head on instead from the top and to the side, but that
> definitely is
> > Mainoumi.
> >
> > 0
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 1/5/2008 7:10:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > cfinberg at gmail.com writes:
> >
> > If it's  the same one I recall, it was a classic Konishiki v. Mainoumi
> photo,
> > taken  from behind Mainoumi but with enough of his profile to  permit
> > identification, which gave me the opportunity to tell my  acquaintances
> about
> > their matches.  They were very impressed by my  display of knowedlge,
> but I
> > remain invisible to teenage girls.
> >
> > On  1/5/08, Jim Bitgood <Jimbit2 at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Has  anyone else seen the inside back cover of the December 07 issue
> >> of  "Runners World"?
> >> There is a great full page picture of Konishiki taken  from behind his
> >> opponent just before tachi-ai. It's an ad for Hyundai,  curiously
> >> enough. I assume that Konishiki got paid for the use of his  image.
> >> Wonder if the other guy got paid for image of the back of his  mage???
> >> It would be a really fantastic picture if it didn't have  the
> >> advertising copy printed on it.
> >>
> >>     Jim
> >>          "Chitose-Taikai"
> >>
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