[sumo] GOAT in sumo?

Charles Finberg cfinberg at gmail.com
Sun Aug 17 17:14:44 EDT 2008


Thanks so much for posting this!  It took me back to Chiyonofuji's career
stats, which are always awe-inspiring!

Chiyonofuji, whose real name is Akimoto Mitsugu, born June 1, 1955, first
competed as Akimoto in late 1970, then for one basho as Oakimoto, before
assuming the shikona Chiyonofuji.

During his career, Chiyonofuji spent 6 basho in Jonidan, and 6 in sandanme.
He also spent 13 in makushita and 17 in juryo. In all of these, he only won
1 yusho!

During his career, he was demoted from Makushita twice, demoted from Juryo
once, and demoted from Makuuchi once (the first time bouncing all the way
down to Makushita).

For the first couple of years in sumo, Chiyonofuji weighed about 71
kilograms -- that's about 155 pounds.  He had bulked up to 89 kilos by
late 1972 (age 17), and he reached 100 kg as 1975 began (age 19 1/2) --
that's 220 pounds!  But, during the ensuing years, until 1979 (age 24), he
apparently competed below 100 kg.  By late 1979, Chiyonofuji was again above
100 kg, and during the latter years of his career, until his retirement in
1991 -- last yusho in November 1990, at age 35, he fought in the range of
the low-to-mid 120 kgs -- that's about 264 pounds.

The bouts that I've seen, mostly old tapes shown on TV Japan, are of course
all highlights, with Chiyonofuji usually the smaller of the two rikishi.
But, when he gets his left hand on his opponent's mawashi in these bouts,
that's that!

I never got to see Chiyonofuji live.  (I did see Taiho win a jun-yusho, and
I also saw Asashio live, in 1961.)  But, in terms of capability per pound,
and zeal, I'd have to go with Chiyonofuji as the greatest of all time.

Following (I hope!) is Chiyonofuji's won-lost record through his career
(thanks to Doitsuyama's database http://sumodb.sumogames.com.  If the table
below doesn't show up well, then check out the link, with its comprehensive
resources, directly:


1970.09 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197009#Mz>

Mz





1970.11 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197011#Jk>

Jk10e

5-2 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197011>



1971.01 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197101#Jd>

Jd57e

4-3 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197101>



1971.03 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197103#Jd>

Jd38w

4-3 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197103>



1971.05 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197105#Jd>

Jd19w

4-3 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197105>



1971.07 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197107#Jd>

Jd5w

3-4 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197107>



1971.09 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197109#Jd>

Jd25w

5-2 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197109>



1971.11 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197111#Sd>

Sd61e

0-0-7 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197111>



1972.01 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197201#Jd>

Jd19w

5-2 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197201>



1972.03 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197203#Sd>

Sd60w

5-2 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197203>



1972.05 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197205#Sd>

Sd31e

4-3 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197205>



1972.07 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197207#Sd>

Sd20w

5-2 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197207>



1972.09 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197209#Ms>

Ms59e

3-4 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197209>



1972.11 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197211#Sd>

Sd8e

4-3 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197211>



1973.01 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197301#Ms>

Ms59e

4-3 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197301>



1973.03 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197303#Ms>

Ms51e

4-3 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197303>



1973.05 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197305#Ms>

Ms45e

2-2-3 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197305>



1973.07 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197307#Sd>

Sd2w

6-1 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197307>



1973.09 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197309#Ms>

Ms31e

5-2 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197309>



1973.11 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197311#Ms>

Ms18w

3-4 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197311>



1974.01 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197401#Ms>

Ms25w

5-2 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197401>



1974.03 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197403#Ms>

Ms15e

4-3 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197403>



1974.05 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197405#Ms>

Ms11e

3-4 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197405>



1974.07 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197407#Ms>

Ms20e

5-2 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197407>



1974.09 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197409#Ms>

Ms11e

7-0 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197409>

Yusho

1974.11 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197411#J>

J12e

9-6 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197411>



1975.01 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197501#J>

J4w

6-9 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197501>



1975.03 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197503#J>

J8w

8-7 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197503>



1975.05 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197505#J>

J6w

9-6 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197505>



1975.07 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197507#J>

J2e

9-6 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197507>



1975.09 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197509#M>

M12e

5-10 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197509>



1975.11 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197511#J>

J4e

4-8-3 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197511>



1976.01 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197601#J>

J13w

4-11 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197601>



1976.03 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197603#Ms>

Ms7e

5-2 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197603>



1976.05 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197605#Ms>

Ms1w

4-3 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197605>



1976.07 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197607#J>

J13w

9-6 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197607>



1976.09 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197609#J>

J10e

8-7 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197609>



1976.11 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197611#J>

J6e

5-10 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197611>



1977.01 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197701#J>

J11e

8-7 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197701>



1977.03 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197703#J>

J10w

10-5 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197703>



1977.05 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197705#J>

J2e

5-10 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197705>



1977.07 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197707#J>

J9w

8-7 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197707>



1977.09 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197709#J>

J7e

10-5 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197709>



1977.11 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197711#J>

J1e

9-6 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197711>



1978.01 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197801#M>

M12e

8-7 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197801>



1978.03 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197803#M>

M8e

8-7 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197803>



1978.05 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197805#M>

M5e

9-6 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197805>

Kanto-sho (1st)

1978.07 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197807#M>

K1w

5-10 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197807>



1978.09 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197809#M>

M4e

4-11 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197809>



1978.11 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197811#M>

M10w

9-6 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197811>



1979.01 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197901#M>

M4e

5-10 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197901>



1979.03 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197903#M>

M8w

2-6-7 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197903>



1979.05 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197905#J>

J2w

9-4-2 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197905>



1979.07 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197907#M>

M14w

8-7 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197907>



1979.09 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197909#M>

M10e

8-7 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197909>



1979.11 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=197911#M>

M7e

7-8 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=197911>



1980.01 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198001#M>

M8e

8-7 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198001>



1980.03 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198003#M>

M3e

8-7 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198003>

Gino-sho (1st)
2 Kinboshi

1980.05 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198005#M>

K1w

6-9 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198005>



1980.07 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198007#M>

M2w

9-6 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198007>

Gino-sho (2nd)
Kinboshi

1980.09 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198009#M>

K1e

10-5 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198009>

Gino-sho (3rd)

1980.11 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198011#M>

S1e

11-4 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198011>

Gino-sho (4th)

1981.01 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198101#M>

S1e

14-1 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198101>

Yusho (1st)
Gino-sho (5th)
Shukun-sho (1st)

1981.03 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198103#M>

O1e

11-4 J <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198103>

Jun-Yusho (1st)

1981.05 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198105#M>

O1e

13-2 J <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198105>

Jun-Yusho (2nd)

1981.07 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198107#M>

O1e

14-1 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198107>

Yusho (2nd)

1981.09 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198109#M>

Y1wYO

1-2-12 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198109>



1981.11 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198111#M>

Y2eHD

12-3 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198111>

Yusho (3rd)

1982.01 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198201#M>

Y1e

12-3 J <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198201>

Jun-Yusho (3rd)

1982.03 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198203#M>

Y1w

13-2 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198203>

Yusho (4th)

1982.05 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198205#M>

Y1e

13-2 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198205>

Yusho (5th)

1982.07 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198207#M>

Y1e

12-3 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198207>

Yusho (6th)

1982.09 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198209#M>

Y1e

10-5 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198209>



1982.11 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198211#M>

Y1e

14-1 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198211>

Yusho (7th)

1983.01 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198301#M>

Y1e

12-3 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198301>



1983.03 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198303#M>

Y1e

15-0 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198303>

Yusho (8th)

1983.05 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198305#M>

Y1e

0-0-15 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198305>



1983.07 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198307#M>

Y1e

13-2 J <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198307>

Jun-Yusho (4th)

1983.09 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198309#M>

Y1e

14-1 J <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198309>

Jun-Yusho (5th)

1983.11 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198311#M>

Y1w

14-1 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198311>

Yusho (9th)

1984.01 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198401#M>

Y1e

12-3 J <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198401>

Jun-Yusho (6th)

1984.03 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198403#M>

Y1w

4-4-7 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198403>



1984.05 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198405#M>

Y2eHD

11-4 J <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198405>

Jun-Yusho (7th)

1984.07 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198407#M>

Y2eHD

0-0-15 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198407>



1984.09 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198409#M>

Y2eHD

10-5 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198409>



1984.11 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198411#M>

Y1w

14-1 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198411>

Yusho (10th)

1985.01 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198501#M>

Y1e

15-0 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198501>

Yusho (11th)

1985.03 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198503#M>

Y1e

11-4 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198503>



1985.05 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198505#M>

Y1e

14-1 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198505>

Yusho (12th)

1985.07 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198507#M>

Y1e

11-4 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198507>



1985.09 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198509#M>

Y1e

15-0 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198509>

Yusho (13th)

1985.11 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198511#M>

Y1e

14-1 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198511>

Yusho (14th)

1986.01 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198601#M>

Y1e

13-2 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198601>

Yusho (15th)

1986.03 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198603#M>

Y1e

1-2-12 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198603>



1986.05 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198605#M>

Y1e

13-2 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198605>

Yusho (16th)

1986.07 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198607#M>

Y1e

14-1 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198607>

Yusho (17th)

1986.09 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198609#M>

Y1e

14-1 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198609>

Yusho (18th)

1986.11 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198611#M>

Y1e

13-2 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198611>

Yusho (19th)

1987.01 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198701#M>

Y1e

12-3 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198701>

Yusho (20th)

1987.03 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198703#M>

Y1e

11-4 J <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198703>

Jun-Yusho (8th)

1987.05 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198705#M>

Y1e

10-5 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198705>



1987.07 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198707#M>

Y1e

14-1 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198707>

Yusho (21st)

1987.09 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198709#M>

Y1e

9-2-4 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198709>



1987.11 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198711#M>

Y2eHD

15-0 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198711>

Yusho (22nd)

1988.01 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198801#M>

Y1e

12-3 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198801>



1988.03 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198803#M>

Y1e

0-0-15 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198803>



1988.05 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198805#M>

Y2eHD

14-1 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198805>

Yusho (23rd)

1988.07 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198807#M>

Y1e

15-0 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198807>

Yusho (24th)

1988.09 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198809#M>

Y1e

15-0 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198809>

Yusho (25th)

1988.11 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198811#M>

Y1e

14-1 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198811>

Yusho (26th)

1989.01 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198901#M>

Y1e

11-4 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198901>



1989.03 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198903#M>

Y1w

14-1 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198903>

Yusho (27th)

1989.05 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198905#M>

Y1e

0-0-15 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198905>



1989.07 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198907#M>

Y2eHD

12-3 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198907>

Yusho (28th)

1989.09 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198909#M>

Y1w

15-0 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198909>

Yusho (29th)

1989.11 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=198911#M>

Y1e

13-2 J <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=198911>

Jun-Yusho (9th)

1990.01 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=199001#M>

Y1e

14-1 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=199001>

Yusho (30th)

1990.03 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=199003#M>

Y1e

10-5 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=199003>



1990.05 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=199005#M>

Y1w

13-2 J <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=199005>

Jun-Yusho (10th)

1990.07 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=199007#M>

Y1e

12-3 J <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=199007>

Jun-Yusho (11th)

1990.09 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=199009#M>

Y1e

0-0-15 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=199009>



1990.11 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=199011#M>

Y2eHD

13-2 Y <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=199011>

Yusho (31st)

1991.01 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=199101#M>

Y1e

2-1-12 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=199101>



1991.03 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=199103#M>

Y2wHD

0-0-15 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=199103>



1991.05 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Banzuke.aspx?b=199105#M>

Y2wHD

1-3-11 <http://sumodb.sumogames.com/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=1354&b=199105>






On 8/17/08, Harold Shaver <hal6671 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > So, are Dagens Nyheter just semi-ignorant of things sumoan or are there
>
> > any objective arguments for placing Taka as the sole sumo on the list?
>
> > What do you think?
>
> >
>
> > Maguroyama
>
>
>
> I believe it is probably more a factor of the press that Takanohana
> received
> both in and outside of Japan.  All factors put together I, if I had to
> choose only 1 of those rikishi to put on that list would probably take
> Chiyonofuji.  You have to take into consideration the entire careers of
> each
> of those Dai Yokozunae.  True Taiho had the most Yusho ever including 8 or
> 9
> Zensho yusho and twice winning 6 basho in a row.  Futabayama was a great
> Yokozuna beyond doubt, but just to say he would have won 30 yusho if he had
> competed in the 6-a-year schedule is somewhat unfounded as we don't know
> what his endurance or injury situation might have been wrestling that many
> times a year.  Certainly he would have wone more that he did but 30? I'm
> not
> convinced.
>
>
>
> Asashoryu and Takanohana have certainly had the most press of any Yokozuna
> Dai or otherwise.  Unfortuneately for him most of Asa's has been negative
> press.  Takanohana was a great crowd favorite and had the demon gaijine
> Yokozunaa Akebono and Musashimaru to do constant battle against.  Couple
> that with the horrendous knee injury and the incredibly long kyujo period
> that they allowed him (nearly 18 months) he became quite well known in the
> international press as well as domestically.
>
>
>
> Finally my choice for the Greates Of All Time (GOAT) in sumo: Chiyonofuji.
> The Wolf was NOT a natural he had to work and work hard to become very
> nearly the winningest of all time and indeed holds the current record for
> most Makuuchi wins at 807 of any rikishi.  His early career was very
> checkered constantly moving up and down the Banzuke in the lower ranks.  It
> wasn't until after nearly 10 years that he began winning and doing it
> consistently.  It was almost like he had an epiphany and all of a sudden a
> light bulb went on and he said oh, that's how you win a bout.  The loss of
> his child also was a tribulation to be fought past and he did.  With all of
> these points one still only has to go to You-Tube or other such sites and
> search for Chiyonofuji bouts and watch some.  Watch as many as you can
> because each is a thing of beauty, even the rare losses.  The man was
> undoubtedly an athlete of the 1st caliber and a man that set high standards
> for himself and his fellow rikishi such that when a 17 year old Takanohana
> defeated him, despite tha fact that I am positive he could easily have won
> antoher 5-10 yusho had he remained active, he went intai as he wasn't
> performing at HIS standards.
>
>
>
> Considering everything I would have had him certainly in the top 20 of such
> a list and Taiho, Kitanoumi, Takanohana, Asashoryu and probably Futabayama
> should be included certainly in the top 100 of any such list.
>
>
>
> Okay back to lurking mode, every now and then I have to contribute my 10
> yen
> worth.
>
>
>
>
>
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