[sumo] Me or Your Lyin' Eyes Dept.: - "the woman...did not set foot on the ... dohyo...."

[Judith Douglas]

There is a buddhist story:  two monks were walking through the hokaido 
and came across a stream.  At the stream was a woman  who was not able 
to navigate over the water alone.  One of the monks had her climb on 
his back and carried her across.  Thanking him, she then went her way.  
The second monk was very upset.   "You should not have done that.  She 
is a woman.  We are not allowed to touch her".   The first monk did not 
reply.  Every so often the second monk would complain and chastise the 
first monk for having carried the women.  After many complaints and 
admonishments and many miles the first monk said "I put her down on the 
other side of the stream.  You are still carrying her".

Jude

On Sep 30, 2007, at 8:35 PM, Kuramarujo wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007, Joe Kuroda wrote:
>
>>> Well then the Kyokai should have absolutely no problem with Gov. Ota 
>>> getting up on the platform and presenting the trophy from there.
>>
>> One idea was that she could hand the cup from the side, presumably 
>> where a Nishi side rikishi steps up onto the dohyo.
>>
>> The actually handing of the cup can be done at the center of the 
>> dohyo by her designated male associate.
>>
>> She refused.
>
> 	Good for her.  It's interesting that this kind of thing also governs 
> other things besides Sumo.
>
> 	About 4 or 5 years ago I used to visit a local Thai Buddhist 
> Monastery.  The monks could not touch women nor could they touch 
> anything that women had touched directly.  They kept this cloth in 
> their robes that they could put down on a table and have the women 
> place whatever in the cloth.  Then the monk could touch it.  I spent 
> many times being the "passer on of stuff" for the monks.  I had a very 
> good time and engaged in some stimulating intellectual discussions 
> with a few of the younger monks. Unfortunately they moved to a newer, 
> better building that was much further away from me.  Last time I was 
> there was maybe 2 or 3 years ago for the Thai New Years Festival.
>
> 	Anyway, just a little babbling on the subject from the head babbeler.
>
> K-jo
>
> -- 
> Joe "Kuramarujo" Klemmer
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