[sumo] Re: [now definitely off-topic] Police To Charge Tokitsukaze Oyakata

[Robert Hovestadt]

It is quite clear when a pitcher hurls a fast ball at a batter that the
intent is to injure, especially if that pitch is at the head.  I seldom find
a hit in football that is clearly meant to injure a player, rather than
intimidate him. I won't comment on basketball because I seldom watch it.
Hockey it usually clear when a player hits with intent to injure and it
seems to me that they invariably receive a game misconduct for that action
[though my memory could be playing tricks on me].

I believe all major sports need to deal with in game violence more harshly
than they do. This crap that commentators are always spewing about letting
them play [especially in Hockey] is just ridiculous. Intentional elbows, and
trips should be called and dealt with not ignored in the name of letting
them play the game.

There is no doubt that in baseball most injuries are the result of normal
play and not by anyone doing anything to intentionally injure another
player. I honestly that can be said about football as well, though I must
say some officials need to reread the rule book. There was helmet to helmet
hit this weekend in a college game that was clearly a violation of the rules
yet the officials did not call the penalty. Luckily the young man got up
after a minute or two and jogged off the field.



On 9/29/07, Scott M. Kahn <smk1 at columbia.edu> wrote:
>
> I have to agree with Joe.  Of all the major sports in the US,
> baseball is sport that is least likely to result in intentional
> injuries.  Football, hockey, and to a certain extent, basketball
> are contact sports, each having its share of dirty shots.  The only
> physical contact in baseball between opposing players comes from
> slides or close plays at bases, or when pitchers throw inside on
> batters (or when players brawl on the field).  The difference is
> that it is blatantly obvious when a pitcher is intentionally
> throwing at someone, and the gamesmanship in baseball dictates that
> this not be successfully directed at the head.  Football and hockey
> are ripe with cheap and deliberately injurious shots, and
> basketball is not immune to them either.  Physical intimidation and
> concussions are far more common in the other sports than in
> baseball.  That is why, when top athletes have a chance to play in
> multiple major league sports, they usually choose baseball over the
> others, physically their athletic lifespan is greater there.
> Doesn't make successful headhunting right, though.
>
> Sukubidubidu.
>
>
> Quoting Joe Petrow <joepetrow at gmail.com>:
>
> > On 9/29/07, Robert Hovestadt <sherlockiama at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > There in lies my problem with MLB. It is possibly the only
> > professional
> > > sport where a player can do something with the intent to injure
> > and no be
> > > tossed out of the game immediately.
> >
> > Are you sure about that?
> >
> > In ice hockey, two guys regularly beat the crap out of each other
> > and
> > usually receive no more than a five minute fighting penalty, if
> > that.
> >
> > In football, the following penalties, often done as a result of
> > malice, result in a fifteen yard penalty, with the offending
> > player
> > staying in the game in most cases:
> >
> > * Chop block
> > * Piling on
> > * Roughing the kicker (intentionally)
> > * Roughing the passer (intentionally)
> > * Twisting, turning, or pulling an opponent by the facemask
> >
> > And in basketball, I don't think that the term "Hack-A-Shaq" came
> > about because players broke into Mr. O'Neil's computer.
> >
> >   - Peterao
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