[sumo] Question somewhat related to death of rikishi

Philip Sherman philnorm at webtv.net
Sat Jun 30 09:54:09 EDT 2007

Using body builders, power lifters, Olympic lifters, strongman competitors, is not a good comparison.
Why??? Well I hate to beat a dead horse, but the weight lifting world is famous for young and old dying from steroid abuse, which is known for causing heart attacks, cancer, and a host of other serious illnesses.
 Believe me. I have been a member of the weight lifting community for well over 40 years and am still lifting. It is a lifestyle that has and will remain with me for the rest of my life unless something happens beyond my control.
 I subscribe to a monthly publication which is well known for it's reputation as reporting both good and bad parts of the iron community.
 Hardly a month goes by when a report of people of all ages, but especially in their 20's and 30's are dying from steroid use.
 I have never and will never touch the stuff. My grandson is at the age where he wants to train and I will train him. Part of that training will include the terrible world of steroids and growth hormones.
 He will also not fool me if he tries it because there are a number of physical and mental changes that go a long with steroid use.
I wouldn't lead any one astray on this subject. It is real and it is a shame.


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Charlton
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 9:51 PM
To: Sumo Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sumo] Question somewhat related to death of rikishi

On 6/29/07, Doreen Simmons <jz8d-smmn at asahi-net.or.jp> wrote:
> Most of them are not 'grossly obese'

I totally agree with you, but just to head off any potential arguments,
many statistics involving obesity use BMI (Body Mass Index) measurements.
By those measurements (a ratio of height and weight) most sumo
athletes are, indeed, grossly obese.  However, so are body builders with
4% body fat.  It's just a bad measurement for obesity in strength
oriented athletes (if not for everyone).

I seem to recall that most top flight rikishi are in the 30% body fat area.
Certainly fat, but not considered obese with that measurement.  However,
carrying a lot of muscle also puts a toll on the body and can lower
life expectancy (I wish I could cite some papers, but it's been years since
I did any reading in this area -- as usual apply salt liberally).

Hope that helps curb any confusion in terminology...

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