(SPOILER) Re: [sumo] Day 6 spoiled!
Philip Sherman
philnorm at webtv.net
Sun Jul 15 10:14:48 EDT 2007
Chuck and Lon and the rest of the list.
You make a lot of sense (as always) Chuck.
It is one of the 82 Kimarties. If I am wrong about that please correct me.
Still, I don't like Henka. Never have and Never will. It takes balls (not meant to be obscene, but sometimes the saying fits a situation) to crash in to an opponent who is just as big as you are, just as tough as you are, and just as mean as you are.
Henka to me is a ballet movement and has no place in the manly world of sumo.
I wish the move would be found unacceptable and if used should call for a disqualification of the guilty partie.
Flame away if you must, but I would not change my opinion pertaining to this subject.
My best to all of you and for those in the games, best of luck to you too.
Philafuji
PHIL
-----Original Message-----
From: Kaiopectate!
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 9:19 PM
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Subject: Re: (SPOILER) Re: [sumo] Day 6 spoiled!
You would? Okay -- I'm with Jezz on this:
Neither a nomination nor a vote of a few gaijin, at SFM, a henka makes. And, the subjective opinions of a smattering do not conflict at all with Jezz's insight that we may have seen things differently on Kotooshu's travel up the banzuke, compared with post-arrival.
And no one -- Osh least of all -- can figure out what he thinks. I'm having a hard time recalling a recent sanyaku rikishi who was more clearly his own worst adversary...pre-retirement Akebono, maybe? (Anybody got other nominations?) But it was pretty obvious why Chad couldn't stay on his feet.
So, maybe we should be more tolerant, given the condition of Kotooshu's knee. And aren't we being a little too dogmatic about successful henka, anyway? The best way to sneer at a henka is from above, after the offender is lying on the dohyo.
And frankly, although I admire Ama's head-on losses to any and all comers far more than Osh's successful feints, I think that henka voting is kind of silly, too.
>"This is a totally inappropriate message for the sumo mailing list. Please stop."<
----- Original Message ----
From: Lon Howard <itsulon at wavecable.com>
<big snip> ...Since - up until this basho - he had never lost a bout in which he
had been at least nominated for a henka - whether or not it was
actually voted as one - he is addicted to henka because he probably
figures that without it, he would have had several make-koshi by
now. It is so ingrained that it will be impossible for him to
change. I would love to be proven wrong about this.
Lon Howard
Shomishuu
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