[sumo] Hakatoriki

[Joe Petrow]

Phil, I think I speak for the majority of us when I say "relax!"  There's
very little you can do to offend us when speaking in the realms of sumo.  So
the "toriki" at the end of the shikona got you going in the wrong
direction?  No big deal!  Just say a little "oops", laugh it off with the
rest of us, and bygones are bygones.

Now if you'l excuse me, I need to continue researching my theory that
Takamisakari's silly act is just pretense to keep the public from realizing
that he's the one who's actually calling the shots in Ozumo...

  - Peterao

On 7/2/07, Philip Sherman <philnorm at webtv.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks Barbara.
> Yeah I was just kidding. NO NO NO I really was serious. The trading card
> photo of him looks like he could be Takatoriki's brother.
> At least to me any way. If any one else has a photo of him and you feel
> you would like to post your opinion of the situation I would like to read
> it.
> Thanks Barbara again. The joke was on me this time. You had me wondering
> if I posted something obscene by not spelling his name correctly and many
> other thoughts.
> I will go back to my cage now.
> Philafuji
>
> PHIL
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sumobaba
> Sent: Monday, July 2, 2007 4:51 AM
> To: 'Sumo Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: [sumo] Hakatoriki
>
> Sorry not to answer sooner, Phil. I was out most of yesterday.
>
> I actually thought you were making a joke based on the names' similarity.
> You know, of course, that the boys are given/take on a shikona (fighting
> name) when they reach a certain point in their careers. Thus, "Takatoriki"
> is probably from his former heya's "Taka-", as in Takanohana, Takatoriki,
> Takanonami, etc. Likewise, "Hoku-" stems from Hokutoriki's heya -
> Hokutoriki, Hokutoyutaka, Hokutokuni, Hokutoiwa, etc. Now, Hakurozan and
> Roho ARE brothers, but their names have no similarity to one another where
> one would assume that they are brothers. Then, you have Yuminosato and
> Takanoya, from Naruto-beya, who  are also brothers, but I guess in a
> moment
> of lightheartedness, Naruto Oyakata named them thusly with the roots of
> the
> names being "bow" (Yuminosato) and "arrow" (Takanoya).
>
> There are many "-wakas, Waka-s", and I don't think very many, if any are
> related.
>
> Now, I hope you feel better. You certainly did not do anything egregious -
> I
> really did think you were injecting a little levity there:-)
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sumobaba
>
>
>
>
>
>
> See my blog http://sumobaba.vox.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sumo-bounces at webtrek.com [mailto:sumo-bounces at webtrek.com] On Behalf
> Of Philip Sherman
> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 10:12 PM
> To: Sumo Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [sumo] Hakatoriki
>
> Clay,
> Thank you for the reply. I feel much better now.
> Sincerely,
>
> PHIL
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clay Holden
> Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2007 7:28 PM
> To: Sumo Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [sumo] Hakatoriki
>
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> On 7/1/07 6:16 PM, "Philip Sherman" <philnorm at webtv.net> wrote:
>
> > I have had no replies about my post. Please, someone let me know what
> > might be  wrong.
> > If you feel better not posting it on the list feel free to e mail me
> > at philnorm at webtv.net Reply/s would be very much appreciated.
>
> Phil, if anyone thought it was a big deal, there would no doubt have been
> close to a hundred posts in reply by now ;-)
>
> Don't let it worry you.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Clay
>
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