[sumo] Re: (sumo) Yaocho Story

[Judith Douglas]

But I am sure it does not include the Yokouna, the ozeki, and on down.  
If there is Yaocho it may exist in the lower ranks, but it doesn't 
matter because the wheat is quickly separated from the chafe.I have 
complete faith and trust in the upper level rikishi.   Asashoryu is,  
on the cheating scale,  above repoach.   I feel the same about all of 
the Makushita and Juryo.  Anyone who disagrees is invited to a vigorous 
Indian Arm Restling in Manhattan.  Just call me.

Huzoyomama,  Nurse, grandmother, holder of the sacred Manhattan 
Bitch-slap tournament gold medal.


On Feb 6, 2007, at 8:33 PM, Joshua Maciel wrote:

> I'd be quite reluctant to state absolutely that NO money is changing
> hands. There are a LOT of bouts -- I wouldn't be shocked if there was
> a little yaocho going on, though not at the level the article reports.
> Cheating exists in ANY sport -- sumo is not likely going to be an
> exception, no matter how much we romanticize it.
>
> On 2/7/07, Barbara <barbara at technogirls.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Takanomizu wrote:
>> > I can't believe than rikishi who train so hard & compete through 
>> such pain would give away a win!
>>
>> I don't think there's a bit of truth to it - at least, the part about
>> money changing hands.  Matches are not being bought and sold between
>> rikishi I'm sure.  Maybe once in a while a wrestler might have his 
>> will
>> to win slightly deflated due to reasons - like the desire to not be 
>> the
>> one who causes another to be demoted.  Or the desire not to aggravate 
>> an
>> injury (about which he has revealed nothing to anyone else) for no
>> reason.  Or, simple intimidation.  For instance, I think it is obvious
>> that Kotomitsuki is fairly well intimidated by Asashoryuu. Or at least
>> he has been so in the past - perhaps he is slowly getting over it 
>> more now.
>>    In any sport where money changes hands, it quickly ends up being 
>> the
>> money of organized crime.  Once that happens the information is
>> unbottled and leaks happen.  The fact that the "source" claims that it
>> is all internal and between rikishi makes me believe that it is all a
>> fabrication, because that is not human nature for the criminal 
>> elements
>> who have the really big money to stay out of the picture. So to me the
>> whole thing sounds phoney.
>>    Everyone points at the ozekis.  If they were taking money from
>> Asashoryuu, though, they would lose to him but try to make up for it 
>> in
>> matches against others.  But it looks like to me for the most part 
>> that
>> they are fighting as badly against others as against Asashoryuu.  So
>> it's got to be just a fabrication.  If the JSA sues the paper, I would
>> think they would win pretty easily.
>>
>> Barbara Murasakihana
>>
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