[sumo] [off topic] Mitchell steroid report; Joshua's blatant misinformation

[Keri Sibley]

Actually Charles, in 1996, creatine was the designer
supplement people were all up in arms about, not
steroids. Brady Anderson and Shannon Sharpe both
readily admitted to using the substance.

Having said that...guess who was also on the Baltimore
Orioles with Brady Anderson that year...Raphael
Palmiero!!!!

'nuff said?

Hinerikeri


--- Charles Beauchamp <beauking1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Wrong.  You only GOOGLED the first NY Times article
> that you found from 1998.  That is just a reflection
> on your lack of knowledge/inability to do a proper
> search.  Sorry, I will trust my actual memory of the
> actual time frame over your lousy internet skills
> and
> continued absurd commentary on something you are
> proving to know nothing about.
> 
> --- Joshua Maciel <joshua.maciel at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > So much discussion that the first NY Times article
> > on it was from 1998?
> > 
> > So much discussion that the Washington Post
> doesn't
> > have anything close
> > until 2004?
> > 
> > I realize it's been discussed, but it's been
> > discussed *in hindsight*, which
> > is an entirely different cup of tea.
> > 
> > Nobody is denying that steroids existed prior to
> > that, the catch is that *the
> > fans didn't care* for the most part. There was not
> > much outrage, not much of
> > a problem until home run records started getting
> > shattered, and people
> > started whining that it must be steroids.
> > 
> > The steroid era is a creation of the aughts, and
> > didn't exist in the public
> > consciousness until people needed to find
> something
> > to blame for the
> > changing offense in the Majors.
> > 
> > That was my point.
> > 
> > I do owe an apology to Mr. Kahn, however. His
> > original post on the subject
> > specifically said that it wasn't the topic it is
> > today. I conveniently (or
> > accidentally, or subconsciously) ignored that.
> > 
> > Mea culpa.
> > 
> > I still don't think that he's very informed on
> what
> > steroids actually do for
> > a baseball player, or athletes in general, as far
> as
> > performance is
> > concerned, but that's a different cup of tea.
> > 
> > Bowing out,
> > - Josh
> > 
> > On Dec 14, 2007 8:23 AM, Charles Beauchamp
> > <beauking1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Wow,
> > > um...wow...Brady Anderson's 1996 homerun barrage
> > was
> > > definitely the subject of a lot of discussion
> > > regarding steroid use as it was ongoing.  I
> > remember
> > > it quite clearly.  I am really not sure what
> prism
> > you
> > > are viewing things from but whatever it is, you
> > are
> > > simply ignorant and should just drop it.  You
> > clearly
> > > are not qualified to talk about baseball events
> in
> > the
> > > present anymore then you are regarding baseball
> in
> > the
> > > past.
> > >
> > > --- Joshua Maciel <joshua.maciel at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Let's re-read what I said: "*To be quite
> clear,
> > > > there was NOT discussion of
> > > > steroid abuse in 1996 when Brady Anderson hit
> 50
> > > > home runs.*"
> > > >
> > > > I would hope that you would engage your
> reading
> > > > comprehension enough to at
> > > > least parse that properly. Does discussion
> > equate to
> > > > use?
> > > >
> > > > You've entirely lost any semblance of
> > respectability
> > > > or civility in this
> > > > discussion, and now resort to sniping at me
> > after
> > > > claiming that you would
> > > > ignore my points.
> > > >
> > > > Do you really find this proper behavior for
> > someone
> > > > your age?
> > > >
> > > > On Dec 14, 2007 5:34 AM, Scott M. Kahn
> > > > < smk1 at columbia.edu> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > <bickering fit for an infant>
> > > > >
> > > > > Sukubidubidu
> > > > >
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