[sumo] [off topic] Mitchell steroid report; Joshua's blatant misinformation

[Charles Beauchamp]

Wrong.  You only GOOGLED the first NY Times article
that you found from 1998.  That is just a reflection
on your lack of knowledge/inability to do a proper
search.  Sorry, I will trust my actual memory of the
actual time frame over your lousy internet skills and
continued absurd commentary on something you are
proving to know nothing about.

--- Joshua Maciel <joshua.maciel at gmail.com> wrote:

> So much discussion that the first NY Times article
> on it was from 1998?
> 
> So much discussion that the Washington Post doesn't
> have anything close
> until 2004?
> 
> I realize it's been discussed, but it's been
> discussed *in hindsight*, which
> is an entirely different cup of tea.
> 
> Nobody is denying that steroids existed prior to
> that, the catch is that *the
> fans didn't care* for the most part. There was not
> much outrage, not much of
> a problem until home run records started getting
> shattered, and people
> started whining that it must be steroids.
> 
> The steroid era is a creation of the aughts, and
> didn't exist in the public
> consciousness until people needed to find something
> to blame for the
> changing offense in the Majors.
> 
> That was my point.
> 
> I do owe an apology to Mr. Kahn, however. His
> original post on the subject
> specifically said that it wasn't the topic it is
> today. I conveniently (or
> accidentally, or subconsciously) ignored that.
> 
> Mea culpa.
> 
> I still don't think that he's very informed on what
> steroids actually do for
> a baseball player, or athletes in general, as far as
> performance is
> concerned, but that's a different cup of tea.
> 
> Bowing out,
> - Josh
> 
> On Dec 14, 2007 8:23 AM, Charles Beauchamp
> <beauking1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > Wow,
> > um...wow...Brady Anderson's 1996 homerun barrage
> was
> > definitely the subject of a lot of discussion
> > regarding steroid use as it was ongoing.  I
> remember
> > it quite clearly.  I am really not sure what prism
> you
> > are viewing things from but whatever it is, you
> are
> > simply ignorant and should just drop it.  You
> clearly
> > are not qualified to talk about baseball events in
> the
> > present anymore then you are regarding baseball in
> the
> > past.
> >
> > --- Joshua Maciel <joshua.maciel at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Let's re-read what I said: "*To be quite clear,
> > > there was NOT discussion of
> > > steroid abuse in 1996 when Brady Anderson hit 50
> > > home runs.*"
> > >
> > > I would hope that you would engage your reading
> > > comprehension enough to at
> > > least parse that properly. Does discussion
> equate to
> > > use?
> > >
> > > You've entirely lost any semblance of
> respectability
> > > or civility in this
> > > discussion, and now resort to sniping at me
> after
> > > claiming that you would
> > > ignore my points.
> > >
> > > Do you really find this proper behavior for
> someone
> > > your age?
> > >
> > > On Dec 14, 2007 5:34 AM, Scott M. Kahn
> > > < smk1 at columbia.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > <bickering fit for an infant>
> > > >
> > > > Sukubidubidu
> > > >
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