[sumo] [off topic] Mitchell steroid report; Joshua's blatant misinformation

[Joshua Maciel]

So much discussion that the first NY Times article on it was from 1998?

So much discussion that the Washington Post doesn't have anything close
until 2004?

I realize it's been discussed, but it's been discussed *in hindsight*, which
is an entirely different cup of tea.

Nobody is denying that steroids existed prior to that, the catch is that *the
fans didn't care* for the most part. There was not much outrage, not much of
a problem until home run records started getting shattered, and people
started whining that it must be steroids.

The steroid era is a creation of the aughts, and didn't exist in the public
consciousness until people needed to find something to blame for the
changing offense in the Majors.

That was my point.

I do owe an apology to Mr. Kahn, however. His original post on the subject
specifically said that it wasn't the topic it is today. I conveniently (or
accidentally, or subconsciously) ignored that.

Mea culpa.

I still don't think that he's very informed on what steroids actually do for
a baseball player, or athletes in general, as far as performance is
concerned, but that's a different cup of tea.

Bowing out,
- Josh

On Dec 14, 2007 8:23 AM, Charles Beauchamp <beauking1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Wow,
> um...wow...Brady Anderson's 1996 homerun barrage was
> definitely the subject of a lot of discussion
> regarding steroid use as it was ongoing.  I remember
> it quite clearly.  I am really not sure what prism you
> are viewing things from but whatever it is, you are
> simply ignorant and should just drop it.  You clearly
> are not qualified to talk about baseball events in the
> present anymore then you are regarding baseball in the
> past.
>
> --- Joshua Maciel <joshua.maciel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Let's re-read what I said: "*To be quite clear,
> > there was NOT discussion of
> > steroid abuse in 1996 when Brady Anderson hit 50
> > home runs.*"
> >
> > I would hope that you would engage your reading
> > comprehension enough to at
> > least parse that properly. Does discussion equate to
> > use?
> >
> > You've entirely lost any semblance of respectability
> > or civility in this
> > discussion, and now resort to sniping at me after
> > claiming that you would
> > ignore my points.
> >
> > Do you really find this proper behavior for someone
> > your age?
> >
> > On Dec 14, 2007 5:34 AM, Scott M. Kahn
> > < smk1 at columbia.edu> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > <bickering fit for an infant>
> > >
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