[sumo] Effect of jungyo (UNCLASSIFIED)

Charles Beauchamp beauking1 at yahoo.com
Mon Aug 6 23:04:31 EDT 2007


Lynn is my favorite poster..which probably bothers her
if she bothers to read the garbage I post.
--- Emmett Wayne <emmett.wayne at us.army.mil> wrote:

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> Charles,
> 
> Perhaps this is one of those times where you forgot
> to take your medicine.
> You sound a lot like Lynn Matsuoka. 
> 
> 
> Emmett 
> Torideyama
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sumo-bounces at webtrek.com
> [mailto:sumo-bounces at webtrek.com] On Behalf
> Of Charles Beauchamp
> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 3:19 AM
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> Subject: Re: [sumo] Effect of jungyo
> 
> --- Keri Sibley <kerisib at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > --- Charles Beauchamp <beauking1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > The only people who claim Sumo is more then
> interesting 
> > > entertainment are total fanatics.
> > That
> > > doesn't make you right.  It is entertainment. 
> > That
> > > remains all that it is.  The kyokai have badly
> > 
> > I'm sorry but how I will not allow you to speak
> about
> 
> You can stop right there.  You aren't in a position
> to "allow" me to say or
> post anything at all Keri.  Who do you think you
> are?  
> 
> > what sumo is or what it should mean to me. It IS
> different to 
> > different people and I present a quote as an
> example:
> > 
> > "I would, however, like you to understand that
> sumo, whose chinese 
> > characters mean 'to give thanks for the blessings
> of nature and the 
> > fruits of the earth,' is spiritually linked to
> Shinto, Japan's native 
> > language."
> > 
> > It's a quote from Ryo Hatano from  Sumo World
> March 1992. It's very 
> > telling in that sumo has a very different meaning
> to the Japanese
> 
> Nonsense.  It is simply the opinion of one person. 
> Also irrelevant to the conversation.  This isn't a
> debate about whether or
> not there are a lot of people who like to pretend
> there is something beyond
> a controversy between an organization and their most
> prominent employee.
> What does Ryo's silly mythological view have to do
> with Jungyo vs. charity?
> 
>  and I'm sure to
> > other cultures as well. I don't pretend to
> understand it all but it 
> > has brought peace to my mind over the course of
> the past few days as I 
> > have been a participant in these discussions. I
> tried to pull myself 
> > out a few days ago and I am I now am trying to
> play peacemaker. All I 
> > can do now is ask that all of us try to understand
> each other and 
> > cease this interminable argument.  This list is
> full of different  
> > cultures and we are all trying to understand this
> events of the past 
> > week, whether we agree with it or not. It is very
> likely that no 
> > matter how rational you think you are, on either
> side,  you may not 
> > ever change anybody's opinion. Let's step back,
> take a deep breath and 
> > chill.
> > 
> > Hinerikeri
> > 
> 
> Nah..I'd rather launch into a tsuparri attack on
> everyone and then go drink
> a Pepsi.  <G>
> 
> 
> 
>        
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