[sumo] Effect of jungyo

[Charles Beauchamp]

--- Barbara <barbara at technogirls.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> Charles Beauchamp wrote:
> > This is all well and interesting to read insomuch
> as
> > it being complete nonsense.  Sumo is
> entertainment..no
> > more no less.  That is all that it is.  That is
> all
> > that it has ever been.  The ceremonial traits and
> such
> > are nothing more then part of the show.  
> 
> It is the exact opposite of that description.  Sumo
> does earn money, but 
> it is such an essential part of the Japanese
> self-image that even if the 
> crowds left and money became short, it would not be
> allowed to 
> disappear.

See the very point you are trying to make is nonsical
insomuch as if Sumo truly were what some of you like
to pretend it is...then the notion of disappearance
would be impossible.

  The Japanese government, if necessary,
> would take whatever 
> steps required to retain sumo as a living entity
> forever. 

This suggests something about Japanese government that
is absolutely foolish.  

 "nothing more 
> then [sic] part of the show" is as far from the
> truth as it can be.  

That is a completly irrational view on your part.

I'm 
> sure that continuing to watch sumo and observing the
> statements of 
> Japanese defending sumo as a tradition will make the
> obvious more 
> obvious. 

What is obvious from this controversy is that a lot of
you don't know what you are talking about.  Jungyo's
have about as much to do with Sumo tradition as those
inflatable Sumo costumes that bars in the states use
for mock sumo matches.

 The Japanese are often bewildered to see
> their own motivations 
> explained by Westerners as being identical to
> Western ones and I fear 
> this is a perfect example.  Let's show them we are
> capable of 
> understanding and learning at least some of what it
> means to be 
> Japanese.  Japanese do read this mailing list!
> 

Having lived long enough in Japan and spent enough
time with various people in and around the sport this
list is dedicated to I'd say you are no less a
Westerner then I.  Don't be a hypocrite.  The kyokai
has acted in an indefensible manner in this case.  I
don't care one way or the other how many Japanese
people reading this list think differently..it remains
that the kyokai punished the Yokozuna for attending a
charity event and not lining their pockets.  That is
the bottom line.  All other comments to the contrary
are silly and irrational.  




       
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