[sumo] Effect of jungyo

[Charles Beauchamp]

--- Joshua Maciel <joshua.maciel at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 8/5/07, Rick Plinz <richard.plinz at mac.com> wrote:
> >
> > Takanomizu wrote:
> > >
> > > I have the picture of the jungyo being a
> magnification of Major League
> > > Baseball
> > > players signing autographs & shmoozing with fans
> before or after games.
> > >
> > > The ones who do it, and especially spend time
> with kids are very well
> > thought
> > > of. The ones who leave without acknowledging the
> fans, & ignoring the
> > kids,
> > > lose some respect. There's talk of them not
> being grateful & becoming
> > too big
> > > for their britches.
> >
> > I don't know if this is an accurate portrayal or
> not.  I do know that Pete
> > Rose, the most ignominious of baseball players, is
> paid to sign baseballs
> > and "schmooze" with casino visitors in Las Vegas
> several times a week.  The
> > the disgust of many.
> >
> > I would point out however that whether or not this
> is true, Major League
> > Baseball doesn't FORCE anyone to do it.  And
> Asashoryu is being punished for
> > "schmoozing" with kids of the wrong ethnicity.
> 
> 
> 
> Baseball players are contracted throughout the
> season. Even if they are
> injured, they are expected to be in uniform and at
> the game with their
> teammates without special leave from the club. 

This is wrong.  MLB players who are injured and placed
on the disabled list are not active and not only are
not expected in uniform..they are not allowed by rule
to be in the dugout.  This isn't "special leave"
whatever that is.  It is the actual rule.

If a MLB club leaves a player who is too injured to
perform on their active roster they in effect play one
man short which would be fairly stupid.

Many
> people were quite upset
> at Roger Clemens' most recent contract, when he was
> given permission to skip
> out on road trips were he not scheduled to pitch.
> 
> The point to be noted is that this permission was
> SPECIAL.
> 

It is also irrelevant to anything being discussed
regarding Asashoryu.  

> The most apt comparison I can make is if, for
> instance, Aaron Harang in his
> two stints for 'bereavement leave' this year were to
> have been found in
> Vegas, rather than with his ill grandfather. He most
> likely would have been
> fined and penalized by the club for breaking his
> contract.
> 

Bereavment leave and illness/injury are apples and
oranges.


> Why should sumo rikishi be any different? They are
> contracted year-round,
> and the jungyo are part of their responsibilities.
> 

Well for one thing they don't have a union.  MLB has a
union.  All that you said about it above was wrong and
part of that reason is because they have strong
representation. 

The media frenzy in Japan looks so silly since I don't
see anyone giving consideration to the possibility
that one may be injured in such a way as to not
compatible with sumo and still be capable of doing
other things on a soccer field.  

No employer in the United States would be allowed to
render what amounts to house arrest on an employee for
failure to line the employer's pockets which is all
that this is..well..that and Asashoryu not being
Japanese.

> If I take a sick day from work, and head off to a
> sumo tournament when I'm
> really supposedly in bed with a 40 degree fever and
> the flu, you can bet
> that they aren't going to take kindly to it, and
> I'll likely get fired.
> 
> MLB most certainly DOES force a certain amount of
> participation from their
> players. Why should sumo be any different?
> 

Again seeing as how your MLB examples were all wrong
you don't really have a point.
 



       
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