[sumo] Talk about excuses

Tue Sep 26 07:17:56 EDT 2006

Now there's a visual. Not sure I ever want to be around, even not in Meiji
shrine for that one LOL.

As for the yokozuna, I just hope he gets a chance to rest up between basho.
I really don't want to see him exacerbating an injury such as he has,
irrespective of how much he wants to maintain a face of yokozuna pride,
strength and invincibility. That's my take, not his.

Barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: sumo-bounces at webtrek.com [mailto:sumo-bounces at webtrek.com] On Behalf
Of Joe Petrow
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 5:01 AM
To: Sumo Mailing List
Subject: Re: [sumo] Talk about excuses

FWIW, I don't think Barbara's comments were directed at me or
Jejima..."Asashoryu haters" being some third party not having to do
with us as far as I could tell.

Not being privy to the true extent of Asashoryu's injuries, my comment
was simply that, if a rikishi has clinched a yusho and has no chance
at a zensho, I think that any rikishi would be within his rights to
just skip the last day of fighting and just show up for the awards
ceremony...but this would be even more frowned upon than doing a henka
while farting in Meiji Shrine, and is not a option the yokozuna would
be allowed to take advantage of.

  - Joe P.

On 9/26/06, Jezz <jejima at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ouch!
>
> I am starting to wish I'd never entered this thread.....
>
> Please, please do not label me as an Asashoryu-hater, I'm anything
> other than that!  :)  I think Joe P won't mind me saying that he is
> not an Asashoryu hater either, but more of a worshipper.
>
> To be honest, I did not realise that Asashoryu's injury was so bad - I
> am not sure I was even aware that he had an injury (which shows how
> well he did to cover it up).
>
> Many thanks for the insider information.  My respect for the Yokozuna
> has grown even more (and it was immense already!) after reading your
> email.
>
> My flippant (teasing) remark to Joe about Asashoryu's appearance on
> the dohyo being 'meaningless' in regards to appearing on the dohyo,
> was following on from Joe's post, as he seemed to think that my
> original point was that Futeno was correct to sit out his bout.  Nor
> was my point in any ways to do with Asashoryu's appearance on
> senshuraku, despite his heavy injury.....
>
> I am hoping that I haven't inadvertently dug myself into a deeper hole
> with this email.  Quick!  Somebody take this spade away from me!
>
> Jejima
>
>
>
>
>
> On 26/09/06, Barbara Ann <baklein at attglobal.net> wrote:
> > If anyone should have sat out the last day, it SHOULD have been the
> > yokozuna. His knee was severely injured during his loss to Kisenosato.
The
> > flesh colored elastic bandage covered up the damage until the last
couple of
> > days, when the discoloration starting creeping up over his knee. He
never,
> > NEVER made mention of his injury, ala Tochiazuma, who speaks about his
own
> > "condition" day in and day out, win or lose, and who is the classic boy
who
> > cried wolf. After each day's bout, the yokozuna was sitting at home for
> > hours on end with tea and other compresses on his knee, and his trainer
just
> > looking by, helpless, since there was no physical therapy that could be
used
> > at this time. As a former marathon runner, having a few injuries myself,
I
> > remember the "solution" to injuries, RICE - Rest, Ice, Compression and
> > Elevation, with Rest an important component. The yokozuna was bale to
use
> > the ICE part to a very limited and not useful extent, but the rest? Uh
uh.
> > As reported in the day 15 quotes, Asa finally said that he could hardly
> > walk, but, and these are my words, not his - went up on the dohyo every
day
> > as though he were "genki".
> >
> > I may be biased, but my admiration and respect for the man went through
the
> > roof this time. Plus, he did not use his injury in any way as an excuse
for
> > any perceived sub-normal performances, as biased-himself Kokonoe oyakata
> > (whom I love) insinuated.
> >
> > You Asashoryu haters will no doubt have something to say, but the
yokozuna's
> > intelligence, strength, versatility, and realization and practice of
hinkaku
> > cannot be denied. Steroid-free, meat- and- veggies eating, self-respect
and
> > pride contribute to his greatness.
> >
> > Barbara
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sumo-bounces at webtrek.com [mailto:sumo-bounces at webtrek.com] On
Behalf
> > Of Jezz
> > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 11:22 PM
> > To: Sumo Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [sumo] Re: Outstanding performance prize
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > <SNIP>
> >
> > The point about Asashoryu possibly choosing to sit out the last bout
> > is pretty meaningless in this thread, I think.  ;-)
> >
> > Jejima
> >
> > On 26/09/06, Joe Petrow <joepetrow at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 9/26/06, Jezz <jejima at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > <SNIP>
> >
> > > Of course, it also would have made sense for Asashoryu to sit out his
> > > meaningless Day 15 match as well, but I doubt you'll see anybody make
> > > that arguement.  :-)
> > >
> > >  - Joe P.
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