[sumo] Mark Buckton is attacking Le Monde du Sumo !!!
ozora ozora
ozora at hotmail.com
Sat Nov 4 09:45:52 EST 2006
Get someone to take pictures for you. I am sure there are SFM fans that
would be glad to provide you with content.
PS this ML is being attacked by posts regarding "Mark Buckton is attacking
Le Monde du Sumo !!!" The basho cannot get here fast enough!
>From: Nicolas Schuler <nschuler at wanadoo.fr>
>Reply-To: Sumo Mailing List <sumo at webtrek.com>
>To: Sumo Mailing List <sumo at webtrek.com>
>Subject: [sumo] Mark Buckton is attacking Le Monde du Sumo !!!
>Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:06:50 +0100
>
>Hello to you, sumo fans from all around the world.
>
>I don't post very often on this list.
>In fact, I only come once a month, to let you know that a new issue of Le
>Monde du Sumo or Le Petit Banzuke Illustre is online.
>
>But today, things are going weird, and I MUST know what you all think about
>this : Mark Buckton and SFM are accusing us of bringing a bad image on sumo
>and the Nihon Sumo Kyokai, because we gather information and photos on the
>internet, compile them and offer them for FREE to people who couldn't
>access these info elsewise.
>
>This issue started at the beginning of this week, when him and Ms Klein
>contacted me, to let me know that we had been using a picture on which Ms
>Klein has a copyright, asking for removal and apologies.
>Which I did to Ms Klein, sending a copy to Mr Buckton.
>(you can check, there's now a red disclaimer on page 28 of MDS#18)
>
>It is true that we never asked newspaper websites and the like that we were
>"borrowing" pictures from them. But we never ever made any single euro on
>this ! Our only purpose is to provide non-japanese people with information
>concerning our common passion : sumo.
>And we always asked "private" people for permission to use some of their
>photos when we wanted some.
>
>But now, Mr Buckton is trying to make us cease all activity, pretending
>that we are doing bad things for sumo's image, and for the press' image.
>
>Do you all think the same ?
>PLEASE, let me know what you think, privately or on this list, even if you
>do think like him : if it were to be the case, we would stop everything
>right now.
>
>Thank you very much in advance.
>
>Nicolas
>from Le Monde du Sumo
>(www.lemondedusumo.com)
>
>
>I join a copy of the emails that we sent to each other since last monday...
>that's completely astonishing !
>
>****
>[first message, received on oct 30th]
>Nicolas,
>
>It has disappointed me to discover today your continued use of others' sumo
>related images and photos on Le Monde du Sumo. This regrettable trait
>though, has now extended to your use of a photo taken by and whose
>copyright is owned by SFM's Editor - Ms. Barbara Ann Klein.
>
>The photo in question is of the Hungarian rikishi Masutoo standing in the
>corridor at the Ryogoku Kokugikan and has, I understand been used at least
>three times - including in the most recent October, 2006 issue of the site
>you own / run. Please note that the issues using this photograph have been
>downloaded as hard proof of this usage.
>
>I can only imagine this 'theft' - for that is what it is to take and use
>the property of another without permission - was achieved intentionally for
>the same said picture was offered by Ms. Klein for use on a website
>centering on expat Hungarians (and accompanying an article offered by
>myself).
>
>Given that LMDS is a privately run online source and not a chat board /
>forum etc. I thus expect your full and immediate attention on this issue
>and further expect a full apology in a size equivalent to that of the
>photograph on your current issue. I anticipate this apology to actually
>replace the photograph and for you to remove the same image each time it
>has appeared. I also advise you to apologise to the SFM Editor privately -
>her contact information can be found on the SFM page.
>
>Be advised that this is the only cease and desist notice you will receive
>from SFM as we have tried to address the issue of image / photo theft in
>the past and the discredit you and LMDS do foreign nationals trying to
>operate professionally and above board in bringing sumo to the non-Japanese
>reading masses. Unfortunately you have continued along the same vein of
>operation.
>
>Any further correspondence, should an apology not be forthcoming, will be
>issued based on the advice of the French Embassy in Tokyo, the relevant
>French authorities specialising in Internet theft / crime and if need be,
>similar authorities at the European Union level via the EU office here in
>Japan.
>
>Finally, the above notwithstanding, I shall also be advising the staff at
>New Hungarian Voice of your action and any action they deem fit to take
>will be in addition to and independent of our own resolution or otherwise.
>
>Mark Buckton
>Editor-in-Chief
>Sumo Fan Magazine
>www.sumofanmag.com
>
>****
>[reply sent by me to Ms Klein, on nov 1st]
>Dear Ms Klein,
>
>please excuse the delay of this message, as I have been away for business
>since oct 29th.
>The following message contains apologies for the unasked use of a
>photography, for which you own the copyright. The picture (of rikishi
>Masutoo) will soon be removed from all our issues, and replaced by an
>apology. Please only allow me a few days to do it, but I promise you it
>will be done soon.
>
>Anyway, given the importance of this message, I want to be sure not to be
>misunderstood, and as English is not my native language, I will write the
>following in French.
>-----
>Je vous prie, Madame Klein, d'accepter des excuses, en mon nom propre et au
>nom du magazine "Le Monde du Sumo", parution gratuite et sans aucun but
>commercial, pour l'utilisation d'une photographie dont vous détenez les
>droits de diffusion.
>
>Nous sommes désolés du tort qu'une telle utilisation a pu vous causer, car
>nous n'avons jamais, en aucun cas, pensEEvous nuire, personnellement ou
>Etoute organisation Elaquelle vous pourriez appartenir.
>
>La photographie en question sera retirée sous peu de nos numéros
>accessibles sur Internet, et remplacée par un message d'excuses, comme l'a
>souhaitEMonsieur Buckton.
>
>Dans l'espoir que vous ne garderez pas rancune de cet incident, je vous
>prie de recevoir, Madame Klein, mes cordiales salutations.
>
>Nicolas Schuler
>
>***
>[email received today, nov 3rd]
>Hello Nicolas,
>
>I am really pleased that this issue has been concluded satisfactorily with
>regard to the picture of Masutoo but as I know you will agree in your
>heart, the usage of images from other sumo sources - unrequested and
>without permission - remains a problem.
>
>As a person working in and for Japanese newspapers and magazines I stand to
>be affected personally in what is my 'day' job as well as via Sumo Fan
>Magazine.
>
>To that end, I will now be actively addressing this problem of image /
>photo usage to proactively defend myself and SFM from association with your
>magazine as sumo is a hard enough world to enter at the best of times
>without the obstacle of some foreigners making it more difficult by methods
>that reflect badly on all other non-Japanese.
>
>SFM under my control or publications contributed to by non-Japanese, myself
>included on many many occasions annually, only stand to suffer should an
>agency as powerful as the Nihon Sumo Kyokai take a dim look at 'foreigners'
>such as Le Monde du Sumo (and for many we are all one and the same)
>operating illegally and in an underhand manner by stealing images from
>across the Internet.
>
>You are more than welcome to contact me so we can try and find a way to
>resolve this matter as this is a course I would more than welcome but I
>will advise you that due to your ignoring my own mail earlier this week and
>only choosing to answer that of Ms. Klein, the head of the legal affairs
>department of the French Embassy in Tokyo was made aware of the problem and
>has offered advice accordingly. Where that advice now goes is up to you.
>
>At the end of the day please do remember you are operating in an illegal
>manner, you are only repentant over the Masutoo image as you have 'been
>caught' and are still working in a manner which could well damage my own
>day job as well as the existence of SFM.
>
>Were I to operate in a similarly illegal manner in (your own stated:
>http://www.lemondedusumo.com/english/MDS7_team.html) field of engineering
>as an unpaid amateur and thereby put your own (paid) employment at risk I
>do not feel you would be overly impressed.
>
>Let's work on this.
>
>Mark Buckton
>Tokyo
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